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Fretless
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To whomever the guy was that took Mark Fishers lunch money everyday:

You are the reason we have to listen to this insufferable carping! I hope it was worth it!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pot calling the kettle black.
Give your replies a little more thought and put a little depth in your replies. Not to mention a little common sense and reality.
Times have changed.
Money rules all now. Inject this into your comments.
Insults gain little. Objective discussion, written in paragraphs, is much more convincing.
No one wants to listen to a broken record.
At least Mark writes from the heart, although his spelling could use a little improvement.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

COULD THIS GUY HAVE A POINT ????? INTERESTING WEEK!!!

WORKING ON THE SPELLING HARD TO TEACH OLD DOG NEW TRICKS
EVEN WITH SPELL CHECK

Robert Reich
8 hrs ·
Essay: Seriously, How Dumb is Trump?
For more than a year now, I’ve been hearing from people in the inner circles of official Washington – GOP lobbyists, Republican pundits, even a few Republican members of Congress – that Donald Trump is remarkably stupid.
I figured they couldn’t be right because really stupid people don’t become presidents of the United States. Even George W. Bush was smart enough to hire smart people to run his campaign and then his White House.
Several months back when Secretary of State Rex Tillerson called Trump a “f—king moron,” I discounted it. I know firsthand how frustrating it can be to serve in a president’s cabinet, and I’ve heard members of other president’s cabinets describe their bosses in similar terms.
Now comes “Fire and Fury,” a book by journalist Michael Wolff, who interviewed more than 200 people who dealt with Trump as a candidate and president, including senior White House staff members.
In it, National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster calls Trump a “dope.” Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus both refer to him as an “idiot.” Rupert Murdoch says Trump is a “f—king idiot.”
Trump’s chief economic adviser Gary Cohn describes Trump as “dumb as sh-t,” explaining that “Trump won’t read anything — not one-page memos, not the brief policy papers; nothing. He gets up halfway through meetings with world leaders because he is bored.”
When one of Trump’s campaign aides tried to educate him about the Constitution, Trump couldn’t focus. “I got as far as the Fourth Amendment,” the aide recalled, "before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back in his head.”
Trump doesn’t think he’s stupid. “Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart,” he tweeted yesterday. He earlier recounted “I went to an Ivy League college … I did very well. I’m a very intelligent person.”
Wrong. One of his professors at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Business and Finance purportedly said that he was “the dumbest goddamn student I ever had.”
Trump biographer Gwenda Blair wrote in 2001 that Trump was admitted to Wharton on a special favor from a “friendly” admissions officer who had known Trump’s older brother.
But hold on. It would be dangerous to underestimate this man.
Even if Trump doesn’t read, can’t follow a logical argument, and has the attention span of a fruit fly, it still doesn’t follow that he’s stupid.
There’s another form of intelligence, called “emotional intelligence.”
Emotional intelligence is a concept developed by two psychologists, John Mayer of the University of New Hampshire, and Yale’s Peter Salovey, and it was popularized by Dan Goleman in his 1996 book of the same name.
Mayer and Salovey define emotional intelligence as the ability to do two things – “understand and manage our own emotions,” and “recognize and influence the emotions of others.”
Granted, Trump hasn’t displayed much capacity for the first. He’s thin-skinned, narcissistic, and vindictive. As dozens of Republican foreign policy experts put it, “he is unable or unwilling to separate truth from falsehood. He does not encourage conflicting views. He lacks self-control and acts impetuously. He cannot tolerate criticism."
Okay, but what about Mayer and Salovey’s second aspect of emotional intelligence – influencing the emotions of others?
This is where Trump shines. He knows how to manipulate people. He has an uncanny ability to discover their emotional vulnerabilities – their fears, anxieties, prejudices, and darkest desires – and use them for his own purposes.
To put it another way, Trump is a talented conman.
He’s always been a conman. He conned hundreds of young people and their parents into paying to attend his near worthless Trump University. He conned banks into lending him more money even after he repeatedly failed to pay them. He conned contractors to work for them and then stiffed them.
Granted, during he hasn’t always been a great conman. Had he been, his cons would have paid off.
By his own account, in 1976, when Trump was starting his career, he was worth about $200 million, much of it from his father. Today he says he’s worth some $8 billion. If he’d just put the original $200 million into an index fund and reinvested the dividends, he’d be worth $12 billion today.
But he’s been a great political conman. He conned 62,979,879 Americans to vote for him in November 2016 by getting them to believe his lies about Mexicans, Muslims, African-Americans, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and all the "big," “wonderful,” “beautiful” things he’d do for the people who’d support him.
And he’s still conning many of them.
Political conning is Trump’s genius. This genius – combined with his utter stupidity in every other dimension of his being – poses a clear and present danger to America and the world.
The 25th Amendment must be invoked before it’s too late.
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XIsle
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Mr. Beach, for the salient comment. At times, after reading Fretless posts, I sense he has the same lack of self awareness of this post as the The Prez exhibits via twitter. What! Can't see myself for the crowd of people in it. I suggest one look at themselves, if possible, before railing about others. The Prez does not have this ability, many do not. Easier to blame and point finger at others than self examine. Trump is a master of total lack of self awareness, a very stable genius indeed! NOT!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




BY Richard Striner, a professor of history at Washington College


Trump’s illness involves his deep-seated need for desecration


He is crude, nasty, insulting, fights dirty, and behaves in a manner so unbalanced that psychiatrists have been sounding the alarm for at least two years about his mental condition. Yet the current White House physician — one Ronny Jackson — claims that the results of a “cognitive exam” show that Donald Trump is just fine.


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The question is of vital importance to America and to the world. It is also important to historians because it leads to another question: has the Electoral College at last put a madman in power?

“Madness” is a concept like “indecency” that can be shrugged away as imprecise or beyond definition. But the issue of indecency is precisely the issue that defines the insanity of Trump. He is driven to make things as pointlessly disgusting and as needlessly horrible as possible — disgusting to the point where most normal people feel sick to their stomachs — and to do it for ever-higher stakes.

He makes fun of the handicapped, demeans military heroes without ever having served in uniform, heaps scorn upon the victims of natural disasters, pursues policies that degrade the whole planet, adds misery to the lives of the helpless, and makes suckers of the voters who supported him by making the rich even richer while telling the members of his “base” that this somehow helps them get ahead — the list could go on, for there can be no limit to the satisfaction he derives from debasing everything he touches.

This is more than the behavior of a stupid and tasteless vulgarian. At the heart of it all is a compulsion
The current form of the compulsion is to rob the presidential office of its power to inspire. There was a point to it all last year when the President of the United States addressed a convention of Boy Scouts and proceeded to violate the heart of their character-building creed by bragging — bragging about the way he had beaten his opponent. This lowered the stature of his office and it made a great many of the participants wish to be elsewhere. It ruined the occasion. The president was teaching the Boy Scouts to be nasty.

That was the systematic purpose of Trump’s behavior that day and it was part of a much larger pattern.

For Donald Trump is a compulsive defiler. He enjoys it. It makes him happy.

He seems driven to prove to himself and to everybody else that his power extends beyond the ability to “get away with anything.” His power is greater than that: he can get away with disgusting behavior that no one else would have the gall to think of.

Hence his otherwise pointless attempt to deny the heroism of his own party’s nominee for the presidency in 2008, a man who had stood up to torture as a prisoner of war while Trump avoided military service. How otherwise can one explain such behavior, behavior of the sort that would in normal times ruin the reputation of any politician who dared to indulge in it, except as a gesture to prove that he — and he alone — can mock certain near-universal standards of decency and get away with it?

This was more than an attempt to degrade. It was a demonstration of the absolute power to defile.

And he enjoyed it.

He found it fun.

He makes fun of the appearance of women, brags about groping them, and brags about evading taxes. He makes up nicknames for those who disagree with him and revels in humiliating people. He comes off like an all-purpose villain in an old-time Hollywood film, the guy who fights dirty — for the fun of it — who smirks and who brags and who only cares about ruining things. What he represents is the knee to the groin, the swift kick below the belt, the loud belch on the solemn occasion. There used to be a short and pithy term for the likes of Donald Trump in America.

He is a rat.



He is the gross-out artist of the frat house.

He is such a compulsive louse that one suspects there must be something deeply . . . “wrong with him.”

And the fact that he occupies the office that was first held by George Washington adds to his glee.



One of the common complaints among Trump’s critics is the fact that his behavior is un-presidential. People simply cannot get used to the fact that the President of the United States acts like a guttersnipe. No one has seen such a thing in our times and it’s impossible to regard it as anything less than weird.

It’s unbelievable.

And that appears to be precisely what Donald Trump finds so enjoyable. He loves it.

White House physicians in the past have covered up a great many things about the medical conditions of presidents. Dr. Cary Grayson, Woodrow Wilson’s physician, hid the facts about the president’s stroke. The physicians treating Franklin D. Roosevelt said nothing during the 1944 election to reveal that FDR was dying. And the physicians treating John F. Kennedy, some of whom were arguably quacks, hid the facts about his serious back and intestinal conditions.

Granted, the concepts of “madness” and “insanity” are arguable. In the 1960s a renegade psychiatrist named Thomas Szaz denied that there is any such thing as insanity. All that we can say, he asserted, is that certain people behave in unusual ways that other people find strange. A famous psychiatrist, Erich Fromm, refused on principle to use the word “insane” about Adolf Hitler, whom he did acknowledge was “sick.” Fromm categorized Hitler’s “sickness” as “malignant necrophilia.”

Behavior that flows from what some regard as mental illness spans a range of dysfunctionality. Some people who are characterized as mad are the victims of severe hallucination. They are sometimes incapable of taking care of themselves in the most elementary ways. Others who are sometimes called deranged can act in extremely effective ways while lacking any normal sense of conscience — the sorts of people who are sometimes called “psychopaths.” Others have the garden-variety maladjustments that are sometimes called “neuroses.” They are so “hung-up” about certain kinds of “issues” that their lives are just a tangle of self-defeating illusions.

And then there are the sadists, the masochists, the devotees of whips and bondage — the perverts.

Psychiatrists have called Donald Trump the victim of “narcissistic personality disorder.” But there is reason to believe that his madness goes deeper than that. Perhaps these mental-health practitioners should look at the literature in their field about the sorts of people with a mania for . . . desecrating things. The fact that Donald Trump is so obsessed about physical luxury, physical grandeur, slacks that are steam-pressed every single day, is perhaps a compensation for the drives that are pulling him constantly, relentlessly, toward behavior that goes beyond “trashy.”

There are clinical terms for the sorts of people who suffer from a morbid attraction to filth.

To putrefaction.

People who find themselves aroused by the chance to make the lives of others raunchy and putrid.

Trump is a very sick man, and his pathology is to make us all as sick as he possibly can — sick to our stomachs, sick at the sight of him snorting and cavorting in his sty. He is having the time of his life making everything around him “go bad.”

It is time for a cure.

Richard Striner, a professor of history at Washington College
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DIRECT FROM A REPUBLICAN

‘Don’t ever preach to me again!’: Ex-GOP chair tells evangelicals who still support Trump to ‘shut the hell up!’


Former Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele.



Former Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele blasted Family Research Council president Tony Perkins for giving President Donald Trump a “mulligan” on paying hush money to former adult film star Stormy Daniels.

“When it comes down to giving Trump a pass, some top evangelical leaders are turning a blind eye to his past indiscretions and came to his defense following recent reports about his alleged affair with adult film star Stormy Daniels,” MSNBC host Chris Matthews explained.

“I have very simple admonition: just shut the hell up and don’t preach to me about anything ever again,” Steele suggested.

“After telling me who to love, what to believe, what to do and what not to do and now you sit back and the prostitutes don’t matter, the grabbing the you-know-what doesn’t matter, the outright behavior and lies don’t matter, just shut up!” Steele blasted.

“They have no voice of authority anymore for me,” Steele concluded.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:26 am    Post subject: Flimflan Man Reply with quote

I have said this forever... I hate to say "I told You so,," But I was calling this since before the Election.. and still believe it from My Heart... Donald Trump is a FLIMFLAM MAN.. I used car salesman.. no ,, sorry,, I apologize to the idiot car salesman,, a car salesman looks pretty good to Me right now.

If the People of this Country don't Demand that "We the People" take Our Country Back.. then We will get what we deserve.. ( The democrats don't have the power and the Republicans are raping this country for their own good,, not the good of the country..)

The USA is on a crash course in a race to the bottom, in the world view..

I have said and will say one more time..

Donald Trump is a money launderer. He worships money and who is the Richest man in the world..? PUTIN.. who has financed Donald Trump ,,, well it looks to Me like PUTIN through a bunch of surrogate Golliwogs that PUTIN also finances.. buy buying overpriced real estate.. and loaning Him money that he doesn't repay like every body else does..

My Opinion.... but I believe it with My whole being.. it is a sad sad day in the History of the USA... and this madness continues....

God Help Us all,, and My God Bless America again some Day... (just My Opinion)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TELL ME WHO YOUR FRIENDS ARE AND I TELL YOU WHO YOU ARE

RNC finance chair paid $7.5 million to keep rape allegations secret: report
Brad Reed BRAD REED
26 JAN 2018 AT 12:23 ET

RNC finance chairman Steve Wynn

Steve Wynn, a Las Vegas casino mogul who now serves as finance chairman for the Republican National Committee, paid out $7.5 million to ensure a woman whom he allegedly raped would keep quiet.

The Wall Street Journal reports that a manicurist at Wynn’s flagship casino in 2005 told one of her colleagues that Wynn had forced her to have sex with him.

“After she gave Mr. Wynn a manicure, she said, he pressured her to take her clothes off and told her to lie on the massage table he kept in his office suite,” The Journal’s sources claim. “The manicurist said she told Mr. Wynn she didn’t want to have sex and was married, but he persisted in his demands that she do so, and ultimately she did disrobe and they had sex.”

When the manicurist’s supervisor got wind of the allegations, she gave the casino’s human resources department a detail write up of what had happened. In response, Wynn eventually paid the manicurist a $7.5 million settlement, the Journal’s sources say.

The manicurist was not the only person who worked at one of Wynn’s casinos to accuse him of sexual misconduct either, as the Journal interviewed dozens of his current or former employees who “told of behavior that cumulatively would amount to a decades-long pattern of sexual misconduct” by Wynn that included “pressuring employees to perform sex acts.”

Wynn, whom President Donald Trump has in the past described as a “great friend,” became RNC finance chair shortly after Trump was elected president.
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